A Realistic Assessment of Utah’s Role in the Current “Public Lands” Debate REVISITED — by Todd Macfarlane

First published in January, 2017, we are revisiting the issue a year later, based on recent developments, as noted at the bottom.

Federal Fault Line 1The past few years have been very eventful on the Western “public lands” front.  I put quotation marks around the term/phrase “Public Lands” because according to my evolving understanding, the true and correct definition of “public lands” are lands open to entry and settlement (i.e., there has been no prior entry or settlement), and upon which there are no prior rights or claims.  In a nutshell, what this means is that public lands are those lands and resources upon which no one has made any kind of claim. But regardless of the proper terminology and reference regarding these lands, there is no question about the term “Debate.”  A very lively debate, akin to the original Federalist/Anti-Federalist Debate, is now raging in the West over jurisdiction, control and management of the so-called “public lands,” claimed by the Federal Government..

According to one line of thought, articulated by Cliven Bundy and Cliff Gardner, the federal government has never had any legitimate jurisdiction over these lands in the first place. According to others, including KrisAnne Hall, the “enclave” clause of the U.S. Constitution limits federal ownership of land to forts and ports and post offices. According to yet others, including Utah State Legislator Grant Gerber 1Ken Ivory, such massive holdings violate the “Equal Footing Doctrine.” The late Elko County Nevada Commissioner, Grant Gerber, rode his horse all the way from the Pacific Ocean to Washington, D.C. to protest overreaching federal management, and died on the return trip as a result of injuries incurred en route.  Current Elko, County Commissioner Demar Dahl and Utah State Legislator Mike Noel both argue the states could do a much better job managing the land and resources themselves. According to Attorney Fred Kelly Grant, insistence on coordination with state and local government would make a big difference.

Not even counting Bunkerville and the whole Bundy situation, over the course of the last 2-3 years, and especially the past year, this debate has been ratcheted up several notches, with major MSM and social media debate, and ongoing live protests, including sustained protests about treatment of Dwight and Steven Hammond, the resulting Oregon Stand-off, including the Malheur Occupation and associated trial(s), the prosecution and trial of San Juan County Commissioner Phil Lyman, ongoing protests about the Bears Ears and Gold Butte National Monument designations, and continuing concerns about the possibility of an Owhyee Canyonlands National Monument as well.

Despite all the disagreements – often focusing on the bases, means, methods, and approach advocated by the likes of Cliven and Ammon Bundy – however, there seems to be broad consensus in the rural West, and among state and local elected officials, about one thing: The federal government is missing the mark, has become an overbearing, tyrannical landlord, and has overstayed its welcome – in its role as primary land manager in the West.

In at least one prior piece in our Realities that Nobody Wants to Talk About series, we touched on some of this.  In this piece we are going to take a realistic look at Utah’s role in the whole discussion and debate.  We’re also going to talk about one element or component of the discussion that seems to be a major sticking point.

According to Dr. Angus McIntosh, that sticking point boils down to the fact that a variety of split estate interests have already been disposed of by the federal government through legitimate prior entries, and ranchers and other productive beneficial resource users in the West have long since acquired private property interests in those split estates by prior appropriation and beneficial use, under a variety of federal laws, including FLPMA, which expressly recognizes the existence of, and is subject to “all valid existing rights.”

But before addressing that sticking point, let’s look at Utah’s ongoing role in the discussion.

Although the federal lands transfer proposal is just one aspect of the overall public lands discussion/debate (which is clearly a somewhat complex equation, with many moving parts), it is well-known that Utah has taken the lead regarding the federal land transfer movement, passing state legislation in support of that proposal back in 2012, followed by additional legislation in 2016 outlining how it would manage federal lands if/when they are transferred. Utah also created what it calls the “Public Lands Policy Coordinating Office” (PLPCO), and the so-called “Constitutional Defense Council” (CDC), and hired former national BLM director, Kathleen Clarke to run with these efforts.  All this was viewed to be a very bold move in assuming some sort of mantle of leadership in this movement.

public-lands-debate-3From 2012 to 2016, with Utah State Legislator Ken Ivory and the Utah-based American Lands Council leading the charge, the federal land transfer movement seemed to be gaining steady traction and momentum.  Many rural counties were completely on board, and moving strongly in that direction, with other Western states getting on board or showing significant interest.  During that time period Ken Ivory, and then Utah House Speaker Becky Lockhart participated in a series of well-publicized public debates through-out the state of Utah advocating the land transfer proposal.  Even the Bundy Standoff in Bunkerville, Nevada in 2014 seemed to add substance to the movement by providing yet another clear example of federal overreach and heavy-handedness.  Despite Cliven Bundy’s oft-perceived indiscretions  with respect to refusal to pay federal “grazing fees,” many Utah elected officials and political leaders joined the chorus condemning the Federal Government’s heavy-handed approach in Bunkerville. And between 2014 and 2016, Utah legislator (and retired BLM employee) Mike Noel led the charge on drafting and sponsoring the Utah Public Lands Management Act, which enjoyed broad legislative support in 2016, and passed with flying colors.  And the Utah State legislature also approved allocation of substantial sums of money ($4.5MM initially, and ultimately up to $14MM) to litigate the federal transfer issue.  There is no question, no other Western state has been as active or played as big a leadership role in the whole discussion.

But unfortunately, just as the whole discussion and debate were reaching fever pitch with the Oregon Standoff, and prolonged protests regarding proposed National Monument designations, in 2016 momentum for the movement started meeting serious resistance, and it started losing traction.  While it was well known that it would have been a virtual impossibility under a Hillary Clinton Administration, when Donald Trump was surprisingly/miraculously elected, there had been genuine hope that he might get on board to make it happen. Amazingly, in ongoing roller-coaster-like developments, Trump’s appointment of Montana Rep. Ryan Zinke as Secretary of the Interior has pretty much dashed that hope. But that’s certainly not the only issue that needs serious attention, including that sticking point that we’re going to be talking about

Ammon Ryan LaVoy RightThe first major set-back in the land transfer effort, however, resulted from the media firestorm surrounding the Malheur Occupation and Oregon Stand-off in early 2016. Other than a general feeling of dissatisfaction with federal land and resource management, there was really no actual, direct connection between the so-called “Oregon Standoff,” and the federal land transfer movement. But despite the lack of any actual connection between the two, in the Mainstream Media narrative and rhetoric that ensued, fueled by an opportunistic environmental agenda, the Malheur Occupation and the federal lands transfer movement became connected in many peoples’ minds.  In the distorted, label-rich media feeding frenzy, they were both characterized as “land grabs.”  And in the process the transfer movement was dealt a significant blow that it has been attempting to recover from ever since.

One of the main reasons that happened is because neither Ammon Bundy on one side of the equation, nor the American Lands Council and others leading the land transfer movement, on the other side of the equation, appeared to be very well-prepared to control the media narrative coming out of the Malheur Occupation, which became very negative right from the get-go.

With the help of a more than willing Mainstream Media, Environmentalists seized the opportunity to run wild with the narrative to advance their agenda. According to Dave Skinner in a special report in Range magazine, “Simply put, the refuge occupiers didn’t have a clue how to fight a war of words on America’s media battlefield.”  According to Skinner, “Prior to the standoff, Environmentalism Inc and other defenders of bad federal-lands policy were on the political defensive.  But within hours of the Bundy Refuge takeover, professional Greens went on full-bore offense. Green cash and people poured into Harney County while home-office staff lit up the wires to news outlets nationwide.”

kieran-suckling-1Obviously, neither the refuge occupiers, nor the completely separate players behind the land transfer movement were prepared to deal with the ensuing media firestorm.  Fueled by a combination of their normal liberal agenda and biases, coupled with a narrative provided by environmental organizations like the Center for Biological Diversity, the Center for Western Priorities, and Western Watersheds, the mainstream media ran wild with the environmentalists’ narrative.  A common theme advanced by all those groups was that the Koch Brothers were funding all of it – that the Koch Brothers were funding ALC, and that they had funded and staged the Malheur Occupation — every part and parcel of it was dictated by the Koch Brothers’ agenda.  According to that narrative, the Koch Brothers were calling all the shots and funding everything, and everyone from Cliven Bundy to Ken Ivory to LaVoy Finicum were nothing more than hapless Koch Brothers pawns.

Fortuntately, despite all the distorted media spin, Ammon Bundy got his day in court and received vindication when he was fully acquitted by a federal jury in Portland.  And the entire Bundy clan was vindicated for the Bunkerville Standoff by a full dismissal with prejudice in Las Vegas.  In fact, in her ruling, Judge Gloria Navarro expressly found that the federal government and the prosecution had repeatedly lied about what happened, and engaged in “reckless, outrageous, flagrant misconduct in violating the due process and constitutional rights of the defendants . . . that was so outrageous that no lesser remedy than dismissal with prejudice would be sufficient.”

But it is unlikely that the federal land transfer movement will have any meaningful opportunity for such vindication.

hcn-patriot-2A big part of the predatory media feeding frenzy that ensued and still continues is widespread use of a whole host of inflammatory labels (like “extremists,” “militants,” “domestic terrorists,” etc.), coupled with asserted guilt by association. One of the most telling and damaging examples of this was Oregon Senator Ron Wyden’s widely-reported statement that the Standoff was “a situation where the ‘virus’ was spreading,” and strong action needed to be taken.

Exactly, what the so-called “virus” was is debatable.  Some say it was “extremism”.  Others say it was  “the truth.” Yet others say it was the so-called “militia.”  But from my perspective, the real thing that was spreading that the likes of Senator Wyden were most concerned about is the principle underlying the major sticking point that we’re going to talk about.  It is what I have come to refer to as a “Gospel.”  What does “gospel” mean?  According to the Greek translation, it means “Good News,” or “Good Message.” It’s what I call the Gospel — the Good News — of Property Rights.

“The proper function of government is not to grant rights, but to protect the unalienable, God-given rights of life, liberty, property, and pursuit of happiness.”

bundy-terrorists-1One thing is for sure, the entire situation, evolutions and atmosphere coming out of the Malheur Occupation caused a whole lot of new information to come out of the woodwork, and provided opportunities to find out where a whole bunch of people really stand on a variety of issues and basic principles, including the sticking point we keep referring to — the concept of fundamental property rights. Although Senator Wyden is a liberal democrat from one of the most liberal states in the West, unfortunately, even so-called “conservative” politicians and policymakers in an ultra-conservative state the likes of Utah seem to drink the same Kool-aid when it comes to the issue of fundamental property rights. Although the Utah State Republican Platform expressly states: “The [proper] function of government is not to grant rights, but to protect the unalienable, God-given rights of life, liberty, property, and pursuit of happiness,” when it comes to actions speaking louder than words, however, it has become quite clear that very few Utah political leaders really mean what they say.

Unfortunately, some of the most telling information that has come out of the events of the past several years is that — in terms of actions speaking louder than words — most Utah political leaders apparently do not believe in the concept of fundamental property rights — including private property interests in the split estates of the federal domain.  This reality became crystal clear when the Utah State Legislature passed the Utah Public Lands Management Act which included no reference to “valid, prior tony-rampton-1existing rights.”  Despite the fact that the applicable federal statutory clause is often completely ignored, even FLPMA — the Federal Lands Policy Management Act — expressly states that the Act itself is subject to all valid, prior-existing rights, which includes RS-2477 access rights, water rights, and grazing rights, all established by the same fundamental, guiding principles — prior appropriation and beneficial use. But unfortunately, instead of recognizing and embracing these fundamental principles, Tony Rampton, Utah’s Assistant Attorney General assigned to help champion these issues, acting under the direction of Kathleen Clarke, PLPCO and the CDC, acting in concert with the Utah Farm Bureau and other entities, have gone to great lengths to pour cold water on the whole concept of fundamental property rights espoused by the likes of Dr. Angus McIntosh and Dr. Michael Coffman.  While on one hand Utah’s political leaders have shown a strong united front in support of a federal land transfer, and have made a strong show of united opposition to the Bears Ears National Monument, and support for a massive reduction of the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument, on the other hand they have shown an equal lack of support for the concept of fundamental property rights, including “grazing rights” on federal grazing allotments, and whether such rights would have any more recognition or respect under state management if federal lands were transferred to the states. In terms of basic, fundamental principles, this reality is a serious wake-up call.

Stanton Gleave 3A year or so after these issues first started colliding in full force, I had a chance to spend a significant amount of time with Piute County, Utah rancher, Stanton Gleave, discussing all of this with him, in preparation for a big feature story about the Gleave family which came out in the Summer 2017 issue of Range magazine. See Stanton Gleave and the Piute Posse.

I’ve written about some of this before, but if you’re not familiar with the name Stanton Gleave, it’s a name you’ll want to remember and pay attention to. Gleave is a Utah rancher, who has been near the epicenter of all these issues – and especially the property rights issue – for years.  He is one of few people, including ranchers, who really “gets” the concept of private property rights and how they apply in the so-called public lands debate.

As Stanton and I were visiting and driving around Gleaves’ Piute County ranching operation headquartered in Kingston, he said, “Here’s a good example of what I’m talking about. . . . You know, Piute and Otter Creek Reservoirs raise some great fish.”  Holding out his hands to demonstrate, he said “These reservoirs will raise 25-36” fish.  They raise some really nice fish. . . . So now we’ve got all these fishermen and recreationists who think we ought to leave all the water in the reservoirs for raising fish and water-skiing. . . . But who do you think built those storage reservoirs decades ago?  It was farmers and irrigation companies and water conservancy districts, that built the reservoirs to store water in the winter to irrigate with in the summer. . . . Stanton Gleave 1Now, based on all the pressure from the sportsmen and recreationists, what do you think would happen if we went out and dammed-up the Sevier River and started trying to use all that water just for raising fish and water skiing?  Or, what do you think would happen if I tried to keep and use all that water here in Piute County?  . . .  I mean, this is where it comes from.  It’s ‘our’ water, right? . . . . Well, let me tell you, if I did that, I’d be in big trouble, because people downstream on the Sevier River have a superior right to that water.  They have a superior right that was acquired by prior appropriation and beneficial use.  They are the ones who built these storage reservoirs.  If I tried to dam-up the river and steal their water, people downstream on the river, from Sevier and Millard Counties — people from Delta — would be here with picks, public opposition pitchfork 1shovels, pitchforks, guns and lawyers, to protect and take back their water rights, because they are treated as Rights. . . . And exactly the same principles apply to the forage and water on federal grazing allotments.  Ranchers have acquired a private property interest and a right to use that forage and water by prior appropriation and beneficial use. . .  And those rights need to be recognized and respected.

So Stanton Gleave has summed it up in a nutshell.  The concept of rights seems to be a sticking point.  Rights have always been a sticking point.  Among other things, the original Federalist/Anti-federalist debate was about protection of fundamental, inalienable, individual rights.  Although that debate has never really ended, it did not even subside until the Constitution was amended to include the “Bill of Rights.”  And it is unlikely that this debate is going to subside until these rights are fully recognized either. We’ll talk more about that later.


Although, the whole land transfer movement, having a lack of favor with President Trump and Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, seems to be essentially dead, or at least on a serious back burner, Utah did make some notable progress in the public lands debate under the new administration in 2017.

Zinke Horse 1Although Secretary Zinke made it clear from the get-go that he wasn’t in favor of any land transfer, he also made it clear that he thought previous presidents, including Obama and Clinton had gone way too far in their national monument designations.  Particularly including the massive Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument in Kane and Garfield Counties, and the excessive Bears Ears National Monument in San Juan County. And Zinke made at least two special trips to Utah as part of a thorough study into what should be done about that, and then made his recommendations to the president.  Contrary to the spin many have attempted to put on this, not only would all the applicable lands remain “public” lands, they would also remain under federal jurisdiction and management.

Based on Secretary Zinke’s recommendations, In December 2017, President Trump made a special trip to Utah to announce substantial reductions in both monuments.  Although both monuments and all affected land and resources would remain under federal jurisdiction and management, President Trump said that in addition to vastly reducing the size of both Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante, he was actually going to break-up GSENM into several much smaller monuments focusing on lands that truly are monumental and worthy of such designation and management.

Trump Monument Reduction 1

President Trump credited Utah’s congressional delegation, including Rob Bishop, Chairman of the House Public Lands Committee, as well as Chris Stewart and Senator Mike Lee, all of whom are heavy-hitters on public lands issues, and especially Senator Hatch (who had just chaired a tax overhaul for Trump) with making it happen.

It’s something that hasn’t really happened anywhere else, and it took a lot of effort, so there is no question, despite set-backs on some fronts, there is no question, Utah’s congressional leaders have played a major role in the public lands debate.

7 thoughts on “A Realistic Assessment of Utah’s Role in the Current “Public Lands” Debate REVISITED — by Todd Macfarlane

  1. ‘Debate’ is probably the wrong word. The history and the law are long settled.

    The stuff mentioned here was made up out of whole cloth only a few decades ago when white supremacists wanted an enemy for their economic woes that wasn’t people like them.

    The federal government has been propping up these ‘land users’ for decades, and should really stop giving them such preferential treatment and let them die out under their own failures.

  2. Given the vindictive, retaliatory nature of the Obama Administration, Utah’s role in the land transfer discussion and vocal opposition to Bears Ears is probably exactly why he lashed out with the designation of Bears Ears. Aside from retaliation against the Bundys there is absolutely no other good explandation for the Gold Butte designation. If he doesn’t end up designating Owyhee Canyonlands its because there’s really no one to retaliate against. Most Oregon officials are at his beck and call. Dealing with the Obama administration and its supporters has been a no-win situation for the producers in this country.

  3. Truly a good article.
    I am looking forward to more of your updates on Stanton Gleave, a true American hero in my eyes.
    Thank you Todd MacFarlane for your expertise on land rights, keep up the great work!

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